We are discussing time to be spent, vacation and travel, and my brother's family's travel dynamics are throwing a wrench into various plans. One minor point in this is that my brother's family lives in Singapore. Thus Tampa, Florida in August (a proposed gathering point) doesn't cause them to reel in horror as it does the rest of us. I'm pretty sure my sister has no desire to come west or go south.
This is also posted at http://elainegrey.dreamwidth.org/511355.html .